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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:06 am Reply with quote
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I've always wondered why ZT never did the usual "Best albums of the year" thing at the end of every year.. is it more of a size limitation issue because of the capacity of such feature or do you guys just don't like doing lists ?

I do remember that back in 2005 there was a writers poll survey that Gojira won I believe.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:45 pm Reply with quote
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Writers' Polls
We will be doing something on this front, but it will be slightly different to the norm and form part of something else in the Jan/Feb edition.

Readers' Polls
From past experience I am too aware that (sadly) readers' polls can't be wholly trusted as being representative. Along with all sorts of other weird going ons, you end up with street teams working on behalf of labels voting (many of those receive emails asking them to vote for a particular band and don't even read the magazine they're contributing a vote to), or you end up with a huge pile of hugely differing results and have to take a decision on which to make usable - for smaller poll sections such as unsigned etc. votes can often be counted on one hand. How can you really, really expect readers to cast "proper" votes across all categories.

Simply put, it is incredibly difficult to trust / compile a readers' poll or make real sense of it. Considering readership numbers, only a tiny percentage of readers will actually bother filling in a poll and because these people aren't selected demographically, it's never going to be particularly representative of the overall readership, which is a real shame.

To make voting easier, some polls are restricted - people can vote for a specific selection of bands. This is going to make for a more accurate poll where those bands are concerned and is definitely more manageable, but it is too limiting for us to consider doing. Can you imagine the fuss deciding which artists to nominate? We'd be here all year if this was genuinely decided on on merit and had absolutely nothing to do with industry relationships at all.

I think polls can be semi-amusing to skim read but I never ever take the results seriously, and I also tire of the fact that many of the results in readers' polls are clearly made up from votes for people's favourite bands year on year - i.e. the same band every year regardless of output because some people just have favourite bands they will vote for loyally regardless. I also think the sub-sections of some polls are tired. How many years in a row can Dani Filth land in both least shaggable and most shaggable categories for example - and why would anyone care? There must be better ways of injecting humour, musn't there?

I guess the line we take is that we don't wish to sell either bands or readers short by publishing results we don't have complete faith in.

On that note, we will be doing something really special for the start of 2010 which we think will definitely make up for a lack of readers' polls.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:32 pm Reply with quote
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Wise words Lisa. People are better off making their own unpoliticized 'best ofs' on the internet than voting.

What kind of human being joins/forms a street team? :lol: I actually can't think of anything more degrading, embarassing, dull, soul-raping and ultimately foolish. Why is it that the possibility of street team supported band being any good is less likely than discovering that you have Tcho-Tcho DNA? Going into HMV and rearranging the shelf so some arsebag Nuclear Blast band are infront of all the other CDs. I'll have no part in it!



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:11 pm Reply with quote
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There's some writer TOP 10s in the new issue :D



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:08 pm Reply with quote
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There haven't been any albums of the year...

Except for the Haxan album...and i'm not fucking releasing it until they free Varg Vikernes


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:02 pm Reply with quote
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1. Triptykon
2. Darkthrone
3-10: Couldn't give a fuck :lol:



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:01 pm Reply with quote
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I haven't been able to buy much this year due to not having money to just piss away anymore. For me however the best album has to be Gerritt Wittmer's Vessal LP

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Ostensibly a noise record. Quite frankly its on the same level as body and performance art, albeit through a consumable medium. I've never heard anything of its like before.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:56 am Reply with quote
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Actually I've re-evaluated my list

1. Triptykon
2. Alan Moore
3. 1349
4. Mithras
5. Darkthrone
6. Fear Factory
Everything Else. FUCK OFF



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:03 pm Reply with quote
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10- Stargazer
09- Swans
08- Watain
07- High On Fire
06- Killing Joke
05- Thou
04- Enslaved
03- Kylesa
02- DsO
01- Triptykon

Honorable mentions: Overkill, Hooded Menace, Alcest, Winterfylleth, Dawnbringer, Jumalhamara, Horn, Ihsahn, Wolvhammer & Nails.

Still haven't listened to a lot of stuff like the new Agalloch, Ghost, Weapon, Kvelertak, Electric Wizard and Negura Bunget.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:51 pm Reply with quote
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TRIPTYKON WAS THE ONLY BAND THAT HAD AN ALBUM THAT HAD TOM WARRIOR PLAYING ON IT AND WINS BY DEFAULT.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:31 pm Reply with quote
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hesperus wrote:
10- Stargazer
09- Swans
08- Watain
07- High On Fire
06- Killing Joke
05- Thou
04- Enslaved
03- Kylesa
02- DsO
01- Triptykon

Honorable mentions: Overkill, Hooded Menace, Alcest, Winterfylleth, Dawnbringer, Jumalhamara, Horn, Ihsahn, Wolvhammer & Nails.

Still haven't listened to a lot of stuff like the new Agalloch, Ghost, Weapon, Kvelertak, Electric Wizard and Negura Bunget.

Seems we have some mutual interests there, other than Waitain ;)

1. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus
2. Aborym - Psychogrotesque
3. Orphaned Land - The Never Ending Way Of ORwarriOR
4. Star One - Victims Of The Modern Age
5. Ihsahn - After
6. Todtgelichter - Angst
7. Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones
8. Ghost - Opus Eponymous
9. Enslaved - Axioma Ethica Odini
10. Kylesa - Spiral Shadow
11. Sahg - III
12. Melechesh - The Epigenesis
13. Impaled Nazarene - Road To The Octagon
14. Overkill - Ironbound
15. StarGazer - A Great Work Of Ages
16. Griftegard - Solemn. Sacred. Severe.
17. Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle II
18. Sigh - Scenes From Hell
19. Atheist - Jupiter
20. Finntroll - Nifelvind

Honourable mentions (no way these are getting ranked):
Burzum - Belus
Gnaw Their Tongues - L'Arrivée De La Terne Mort Triomphante
Cathedral - The Guessing Game
The Meads Of Asphodel - The Murder Of Jesus The Jew
WolfP.A.C.K. - I
Slough Feg - The Animal Spirits
Rotting Christ - AEALO
October Tide - A Thin Shell
Leng Tch'e - Hypomanic
Lantlôs - .Neon
Keep of Kalessin - Reptilian
Kamelot - Poetry For The Poisoned
Immolation - Majesty And Decay
Galar - Til Alle Heimsens Endar
Electric Wizard - Black Masses
Agalloch - Marrow Of The Spirit
An Autumn For Crippled Children - Lost
Negura Bunget - Virstele Pamintului
Grand Magus - Hammer Of The North
Hesper Payne - Unclean Rituals
Alcest - Écailles De Lune
Celestiial - Where Life Springs Eternal
Deftones - Diamond Eyes (?! yes, I've always quite enjoyed Deftones, and they've matured into quite the cultured heavy alt-rock band)

I much preferred the ZT "Writers' top tens" to a public/writers vote of a top N albums, makes much more sense, especially if you've been keeping track of whose views on music you share most throughout the year in the reviews section.



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Honestly been so out of touch with metal in the past year. So Burzum - Belus has to be mine cause it was the only metal I bought haha.



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Despite what Mr Ives had to say, I fucking loved the new Anal c**t album solely for the lyric "You said you're eighteen but you're only twelve?! FUCK YEAH! FUCK YEAH!"

Earth's Beaurocratic Desire For Blah Blah Blah was amazing
The Necromandus 'reissue' was incredible
Black Breath's Heavy Breathing is seriously fucking fun



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:42 pm Reply with quote
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I would really have to think hard about my favorites for the last year...I have a hell of alot. But I do know that I listened to Ihsahn, 1349, Triptykon, and Enslaved many times.


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